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Willie Hood
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08/07/2020 12:56 pm  

I thought they already had someone doing the role. It sounds like they have given that role more power. Good, seems like it should be common sense to do if they are going to play the season.


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DetDawg
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08/09/2020 11:14 am  

More random thoughts - 

The Indians are on national tv tonight going against Giolito.  Hope the Indians can finally figure out how to hit Giolito's 2-pitch repertoire of FB/CH that he uses against them.

Luplow finally got his first hit - against a RHP.

The Indians' pitching staff has a LOB% of 91.5%, and their SPs LOB% is 96.0%.  The next closest pitching staff (LAD) is 81.6% and the next closest rotation (LAD) is 83.3% (LAD).

The Indians' pitching staff has an ERA of 1.99, with the next closest being 2.56.

Civale's FB velo is still down about a tick to 91.7 mph, but the late, arm-side movement makes it an effective pitch.

Against the White Sox on 7/28, Civale threw his FB 20% of the time.  On 8/7, he used increased its usage to 39%, reducing his CB and CH usage by 9% and 8%, respectively.  He had 25 called strikes, 13 on his FB.

I don't know whether my eyes are deceiving me, but it appears that Civale has the ability to get slight arm-side movement on his CB when facing a LHH, and slight glove-side movement when throwing against RHHs.  This year, his FIP against LHHs is 0.85, and against RHHs is 3.47.  In '19, those numbers were 2.47 and 4.02, respectively.

 


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Willie Hood
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08/09/2020 12:05 pm  

It was good to see Reyes with another two-hit game. Hopefully, he and a few others are warming up. While Carlos Santana seems to add by drawing walks, it will be nice to see the bat warm-up too.

I know many aren't fans of DeShields, but he's a solid defender (27th best in baseball last yr for OF), has some speed on the bases, and can play all 3 OF spots. 

I'm curious to see who goes once Naquin is healthy. My guess Mercado, who has been in a funk at the dish.


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DetDawg
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08/09/2020 12:46 pm  
Posted by: @willhoo99

It was good to see Reyes with another two-hit game. Hopefully, he and a few others are warming up. While Carlos Santana seems to add by drawing walks, it will be nice to see the bat warm-up too.

I know many aren't fans of DeShields, but he's a solid defender (27th best in baseball last yr for OF), has some speed on the bases, and can play all 3 OF spots. 

I'm curious to see who goes once Naquin is healthy. My guess Mercado, who has been in a funk at the dish.

I'm not necessarily a fan of DeShields, but he's got to offer more than Mercado right now, who doesn't appear to have a clue.  As to his defense, yes, he's supposed to be a solid defender, but he was lazy on a 1B hit in front of him (not sure if it was Saturday or Friday) that allowed a runner to go from 1B to 3B.

Mercado has an option left, so moving him off the roster wouldn't result in losing him.  And maybe working out at Lake County will help him get out of his funk.  But, he's definitely been a disappointment.

I can't wait for Perez to return.  The lineup has a huge hole in the 8th slot, as Sandy Leon is 0 for 28 PA, with 3 BB.  I hope that Naquin can hit the ground running when he returns, which appears to be in the next few days.


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Willie Hood
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08/09/2020 1:34 pm  

I think of DeShields as the perfect last man on the roster bc he is a solid defender. Despite some visible warts, as you mentioned. I'm curious how that factors in analytically if at all when there are plays that should be made but are not.

I still like Mercado, but he needs to make some adjustments. He seemed to benefit from following Lindor last season.


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DetDawg
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08/09/2020 2:15 pm  

One note about the White Sox.  Before the series started, I  had read that Luis Robert tended to chase pitches out of the zone.  I expected Plesac to throw him breaking pitches below and outside the zone, and possibly a FB or two above the zone.  It appeared that that's the was he was pitched to occasionally, but not consistently.  And IIRC, he got a 2B on a FB in the zone in the 4th inning.  I hope they've learned from that.


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DetDawg
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08/09/2020 6:15 pm  

I'm hoping that either the team or MLB suspends and/or fines Plesac for violating Covid-19 protocols.  I have no sympathy for any Indians' player that threatens the health of his teammates and team staff, and potentially the season of the team.


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Willie Hood
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08/09/2020 6:24 pm  
Posted by: @detdawg

I'm hoping that either the team or MLB suspends and fines Plesac for violating Covid-19 protocols.  I have no sympathy for any Indians' player that threatens the health of his teammates and team staff, and potentially the season of the team.

It's unfortunate but self-inflicted. I'd expect some sort of action.  I am guessing he will be quarantined now too.

The door opens for Adam Plutko.


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DetDawg
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08/09/2020 6:29 pm  
Posted by: @willhoo99
Posted by: @detdawg

I'm hoping that either the team or MLB suspends and fines Plesac for violating Covid-19 protocols.  I have no sympathy for any Indians' player that threatens the health of his teammates and team staff, and potentially the season of the team.

It's unfortunate but self-inflicted. I'd expect some sort of action.  I am guessing he will be quarantined now too.

The door opens for Adam Plutko.

According to the article by Rosenthal/Meisel, he will be quarantined for 72 hrs and tested daily, and additional measures may be taken.


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Willie Hood
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08/09/2020 6:37 pm  

I think it is deserving of more... quarantine, suspension, fine, whatever. After seeing the Cardinals and Marlins scenarios play out and added precautions, smh.


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DetDawg
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08/09/2020 6:51 pm  

@willhoo99

My personal view is that there won't be any suspension or fine unless it comes from MLB.  However, a roster move wouldn't surprise me.  That's one of the reasons for the taxi squad. 

I'm wondering how this incident might effect Plesac's relationship with his teammates. 


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Willie Hood
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08/09/2020 7:19 pm  

I think an apology will be an order.

Hopefully, this is a lesson learned. I did some stupid stuff at his age that I wouldn't do now.  It was immature but handled well by the club. I believe they will welcome him warmly once he apologizes. What is done is done. It was a bone head move. Hopefully, he took appropriate precautions otherwise.


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DetDawg
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08/09/2020 7:38 pm  

@willhoo99

IMO, what Reyes did was a bonehead move.  What Plesac did goes beyond that.  Inconsiderate and dangerous, are a just a couple of words that come to mind.  

As you pointed out, this comes after the Marlins and Cardinals (The Cardinals have played a total of 5 games and, IMO, their season is essentially over).  And it comes after protocols were tightened and new authority given to MLB to handle violations of protocol.  Plesac knowingly violated those protocols and went behind the back of his teammates, staff, and compliance officer. 

Regardless of Plesac's age, I think his action is something more than stupid and immature.

Yes, I expect an apology.  But, given the fact that he went out of his way to sneak out of his hotel to meet his friends, what is that worth?  I think it just means that he's sorry he was caught.


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Willie Hood
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08/09/2020 7:54 pm  
Posted by: @detdawg

@willhoo99

IMO, what Reyes did was a bonehead move.  What Plesac did goes beyond that.  Inconsiderate and dangerous, are a just a couple of words that come to mind.  

As you pointed out, this comes after the Marlins and Cardinals (The Cardinals have played a total of 5 games and, IMO, their season is essentially over).  And it comes after protocols were tightened and new authority given to MLB to handle violations of protocol.  Plesac knowingly violated those protocols and went behind the back of his teammates, staff, and compliance officer. 

Regardless of Plesac's age, I think his action is something more than stupid and immature.

Yes, I expect an apology.  But, given the fact that he went out of his way to sneak out of his hotel to meet his friends, what is that worth?  I think it just means that he's sorry he was caught.

I don't disagree. 

The more I think of it, the more it strikes me as a teenagers move—apologies to the more mature teens out there. 

Frankly, I think that a suspension is in order or demotion to Lake County for that matter.

 


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Edible14
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08/09/2020 11:09 pm  

I'm not sure they can suspend him for it, at the very least it would draw an appeal/grievance from the MLBPA. But what they can do, and likely will, is option him. Especially if he's not eligible for any exclusionary list like the COVID IL. The 10 days lost in service time multiplies out for this season by quite a bit. They also can get away with doing it because they have a ton of off days. Tomorrow, Thursday the 13th and Monday the 17th are all scheduled off days. Doing so would draw no possible union challenge as they have the right to option him whenever and could argue that they're doing so to get an extra bat/bullpen arm.

Off tomorrow
Tuesday/Wednesday – Clevinger/Carrasco
Off Thursday
Friday Civale on 6 days rest
Saturday slot Bieber up on normal rest
Sunday, Clevinger on normal rest
Monday (17th) off again
Then they play 9 straight days. So they’ll need a 5th starter at least once during that. They would need Plesac (or a spot start from Plutko) on the 22nd or before. The 22nd is 13 days from now. Plenty of time for him to clear quarantine. Even long enough to be brought back after being optioned. 


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