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Willie Hood
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@edible14

I  don't think we see an aggressive push for Tucker and Tolentino, but otherwise, I think you are on track.

 There have been some rumors they have notified Gabriel Rodriguez he is moving to 3b. I know Junior Sanquintin has worked out at 3b too.

There will some cuts, and we have probably seen the last of Tyler Krieger and some of the older arms hanging around. Positional versatility will be critical for many to remain on rosters.  

With AZ only fielding one team, they won't have space to stockpile talent there. Add the crunch to the DSL teams as they'll have roughly 60 (two J2/J15 periods) players that have yet to make a professional debut.


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Edible14
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@willhoo99 I admit the Tolentino/Tucker thing was a bit of a guess. The reality is they have so many guys who are exactly 19 years old, and have never seen action above rookie league ball:

Sanquintin, Rodriguez, Martinez, Tucker, Tolentino, Valdez, Brown, and Cairo are all 19. All of them are somewhat high profile signings/picks. Only Cairo/Brown/Valdez will even turn 20 during the season.

Tena is 20. Bracho is 19 but did see Mahoning Valley in 2019. Those 2 you can maybe argue to Lake County but it's still a stretch. But there's only so many places to play these guys in Lynchburg. Unless there's a bunch of injuries and/or some guys get moved to the outfield. 

Seems like *somebody* has to get pushed up to Lake County. That, or they're planning on holding some guys back in AZL, and giving some opportunities to lesser heralded guys somewhere up the ladder.


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Willie Hood
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The more I think about it, pushing Tucker and Tolentino to Lynchburg right away could happen, but I doubt they do that. Both were high-profile amateurs, but that would be like moving them to Lake County in prior yrs. Either way, I'd be a little surprised if they are not there mid-season. 

Jose Fermin completely slipped my mind.

Players like Daniel Schneeberger and Conner Smith will likely hold UTL roles unless they push a few players up and rotate positions in the INF and at DH.


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Mackie_Lundquist
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@edible14

 

You are being very aggressive. Freeman at AAA. Tucker and Tolentino at High A. But w/o the short season leagues it is a new world order and we are learning the way.

It seems that Owen Miller needs a new position. He can clearly hit and there is little chance he is going to get time as a middle infielder now, or down the road. If he can play the outfield decently it seems like he could play in Cleveland by June. Especially if Naylor moves to first or flames out.


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Willie Hood
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Miller is more of a medium athlete to me. Perhaps, LF and 1b (played some in ST) could be areas he picks up time in the future. He can hit, that's clear, and he has a long history of hitting everywhere—time to find time for him on the field.


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Edible14
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I actually like Miller in Columbus because he can play the bulk of 3B while Nolan Jones is experimenting with 1B/RF. Clement can play some there too, but I would think they leave the bulk of SS innings to Clement/Freeman. And yeah Freeman in AAA is an aggressive push, but he hit so well in spring training I don't think it would be terrible to push him there so they can push other guys up too. 

The alternative is that they send guys like Angel Martinez and Junior Sanquintin to AZL to basically work out in EST until July. I mean my projection is already essentially punting on guys who were 2nd, 4th, and 6th round picks in 2019 and have yet to play any affiliated ball. I can see that easily with a Jordan Brown, but Angel Martinez is a guy that some in the org think is their *best* MIF prospect (if you read his pipeline bio). I would think they need to get him to an affiliate. 


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Edible14
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Indianspro on Twitter had a look at what the pitching rotations might be at each level:

https://twitter.com/indiansPro/status/1378136481194250243

Columbus of course is stuffed with guys on the 40 with Moss, Morgan, Mejia, Hentges. Along with them is Kirk McCarty and Adam Scott. This group is one of the most interesting rotations I've seen at Columbus in years. I'm really intrigued if Mejia can come back healthy, if Hentges can take the next step. 

Akron's is by far the least interesting, with Joey Cantillo being the lone standout. It is worth mentioning that the Indians have a pretty good track record of turning seemingly uninspiring guys like McCarthy, Morris, Mota, and Hillman into something. Eli Lingos is also there.

Lake County has probably the most eye popping rotation, with a lot of the most prized arms in the org. Hankins, Espino, Burgos, and 40 man roster guy Vargas all will be fun to watch. Matt Turner and Hunter Gaddis round things out. 

Lynchburg has some good ones. Lenny Torres is probably the most interesting as a prospect, but recent college picks are mostly what make up the team here - Curry, Hickman, Allen, and Burns are all from the last 2 drafts. Josh Wolf, part of the Lindor trade, also is here and should be an interesting arm. In my own personal depth chart I had some of those college arms up in Lake County - Hickman, Allen, Burns - with Espino and Hankins here. 

Obviously there's likely going to be some piggybacking going on even with the shortened season as none of the A ball rotation guys have ever pitched a full season. So a lot of those younger extras will be bullpen guys. Older ones like Tanner Tully might only have a job in case of injury, as there's likely a lot of cuts to be made. 


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Mackie_Lundquist
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I think the folks who post here are really smart and knowledgeable. Do guys have a place you are posting on a daily basis? This board seems rather sporadic.


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Willie Hood
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@mackie_lundquist I think the steadiest stream is on Twitter, but that's a crapshoot too. There was another site people were using. It was a Cavs site with an Indians and Browns board too.


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Posted by: @edible14

I actually like Miller in Columbus because he can play the bulk of 3B while Nolan Jones is experimenting with 1B/RF. Clement can play some there too, but I would think they leave the bulk of SS innings to Clement/Freeman. And yeah Freeman in AAA is an aggressive push, but he hit so well in spring training I don't think it would be terrible to push him there so they can push other guys up too. 

The alternative is that they send guys like Angel Martinez and Junior Sanquintin to AZL to basically work out in EST until July. I mean my projection is already essentially punting on guys who were 2nd, 4th, and 6th round picks in 2019 and have yet to play any affiliated ball. I can see that easily with a Jordan Brown, but Angel Martinez is a guy that some in the org think is their *best* MIF prospect (if you read his pipeline bio). I would think they need to get him to an affiliate. 

I hadn't thought of Miller getting the bulk of PT at 3b bc Jones was in the OF. I see that now that you mentioned it. It looks like he is getting some time there now, according to Indians Insider.


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buckaroo
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Boy these boards are desolate! 

 

Soooo, Plesac broke his thumb taking off his jersey "rather aggressively" and was placed on the DL and is out indefinitely.   


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DennisB
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I read on another message board that the leftover stock of last year's juiced baseballs are being used up in AAA. Interesting if true, but is it?


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Willie Hood
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@dennisb

I've read the same months ago. It sounds like it could be legit.


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Willie Hood
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Two seasons in a row of self-inflicted...

Well, nvm. I like Plesac. I hope he is back before we know it. It put them in a tricky spot with Logan Allen and Scott Moss currently injured, in addition to Carlos Vargas occupying a forty-man spot but missing the entire season as well.


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DennisB
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@willhoo99

Also Scott, Morris and Cantillo. Eli Morgan is going to get his turn real soon. But what's realistic after that, other than recycling guys for a second try after we send them down? We could cycle in some relievers and look for 2-3 inning guys, but we would have to alter the 40 man.

I'm excited for Mejia (but his minor league career is so skimpy due to injury), and I feel terrible about Vargas. He would have likely been up, just like Mejia.


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